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Ladner United Church Vandalized For 6th Time. Gay Flags Targeted. Gay Is Evil And Forbidden By Bible/Koran/Talmud/Book Of Mormon.
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notmyrealname carr
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Ladner United Church vandalized for 6th time. Gay flags targeted. Delta Police have posted a video of the suspect hope he gets away with it however you do the crime you should be prepared to do the time. The UCC loses members by the thousands every year as Canada's population continues to grow.

Saw on news this morning hate and blowback in Canada is at its highest in years. This from May 2023.

Vandals target Pride flags at Ladner church for 4th time


Posted May 31, 2023 11:02 pm
For the fourth time since 2019, someone has targeted Pride flags at the Ladner United Church. View image in full screen

On the eve of Pride month, vandals have yet again defaced Pride flags at Delta’s Ladner United Church.

It’s the fourth time someone has targeted Pride flags at the church at 48th Avenue and Garry Street.

“The first reaction is anger and shock, and then that subsides. We’re not going to stop, that’s all I can say,” John Clement, chair of the church’s leadership council, told Global News.

Clement said the office manager arrived at the church around 9 a.m. to find black paint splattered over two windows behind which the flags were hanging.

Black paint can be seen splashed over a Pride flag behind glass at the Ladner United Church on Wednesday.
“This is the first time they have damaged the building. This is more of an attack on the whole building,” he said, adding he was “absolutely” certain the flags were the targets.

After previous attacks, the flags were moved indoors, but Celment said the church had been preparing to move them outside on June 1 to mark Pride month.

“Somebody struck early,” he said.

“The three previous times they were outside, and people either spray-painted big black blobs on two of them. The third one somebody … slashed it.”

That most recent attack, in July 2022, was caught on camera. A man appearing to be between the ages of 50 and 60 years old with a bandana covering his face can be seen using a sharp-edged pole to slash at the flag hanging in the church entryway.

Click to play video: 'Pride flag damaged at Ladner Church'
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Pride flag damaged at Ladner Church
The two prior attacks came just 12 days apart in June 2019.

Global News has reached out to Delta police for an update on the investigation into this and the three prior incidents.

Clement said staff spent the day cleaning up the black paint, and that the church plans to proudly fly the flags despite the vandal’s attempts to target them.

He said the church welcomes differences of opinion, but not violence.

“It is frustrating, but in a way, after four times you get resigned. We’re proclaiming the gospel of love the way we see it,” he said.

“We have no problem with anybody not agreeing. We prefer they picketed, or wrote letters to the editor, or made it clear — come and talk with us.”

Their membership continues to decline 7 Bible verses specifically condemn queer sex.

GOD BLESS Uganda, Gov. Desantis, Maxine Bernier for their leadership on this issue. Premier Ford/Moe/Higgins right about stopping Sogi 123 great work guys.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) in the KJV is it is called an ABOMINATION the only word in the whole Bible to be in bold face.
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).
1 TIMOTHY 1:10
KJ21 for whoremongers, for those who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine

Romans 1:26-27. The New International Version (NIV) 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.

Video of the crime.

Protestors and counter protestors gather outside the Surrey Teachers' Association building in Surrey over differing views on SOGI 123. (CityNews Image)
By Kurtis Doering and Greg Bowman
Posted Sep 20, 2023, 4:36PM PDT.Last Updated Sep 20, 2023, 4:46PM PDT.
While demonstrators defending Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity education (SOGI 123) outnumbered those against in Vancouver Wednesday, the same could not be said in Surrey, leading to at least one counter-protestor getting hit with a rock.

Around 600 people gathered outside the building of the Surrey Teachers’ Association on King George Boulevard protesting SOGI 123, outnumbering those in support of the educational resources.

(Greg: Great way to go I was at the Vancouver rally had no idea about the rally at the Surrey Teachers’ Association good show.)

Lizanne Foster, the vice president of the Surrey Teachers Association, tells CityNews staff at the building helped tend to a protestor supporting transgender rights who she says had been hit in the head with a rock.

“She was feeling dizzy and weak so we’re just trying to take care of her,” she told CityNews.

She says police on the scene were notified, but no action was taken.

In an email to CityNews, the Surrey RCMP says it got reports of an assault in the area of the protest, saying an investigation is in the “early stages.” Police did not confirm whether the assault was from an item being thrown at someone.

Foster says demonstrators began gathering around 10 a.m. on Wednesday, equipped with hateful signs directed at the 2SLGBTQIA+ and transgender communities.

“It was quite overwhelming. The vitriol and the hate and the absolute misinformation and lies. A lot of people in the crowd had the kinds of flags that we had in the trucker’s protest,” she said in reference to nationwide “Freedom Convoy” protests in 2022.

“We think that this issue has just galvanized the same group of people who were involved in those protests.” (Greg: I never supported convoy never knew anyone who did totally against Sogi 123.)

She says for at least one school in the Surrey district, about 50 per cent of kids did not show up on Wednesday.

“People are bringing their little kids to yell hate at us right here outside our building. They had loudspeakers, they were totally well prepared to spew hate the whole day,” she said.

Foster says she stood outside chanting “transphobes have got to go” and similar messages for a time on Wednesday. However, she says more needs to be done to curb what she calls the misinformation around the issue.

Misinformation about SOGI 123 needs to be addressed, Foster says
Foster says many of the protestors against SOGI 123 are misinformed about what the educational resources entail, saying the full scope of it is only available to teachers, not the public. (Greg: Public pays your wages $60k a year full pension all benefits and you won't tell the peasants paying the taxes what you are teaching put it on a website what are you trying to hide?)

“That information has to be disseminated. You have to actually show people what is happening because in the absence of actual fact, people are open to these lies that are being told to them,” she said.

She adds the misinformation proliferates beyond a misunderstanding of the educational resource.

“There’s a significant amount of ignorance about what sex and sexuality actually is. People use ‘sexualizing’ they use ‘sex’ and all these things — flowers are actually sexual beings. They’re male and female,” she explained.

(Greg: Sponges you lying evil ppl don't have sex. Flowers don't do drag. Flowers having sex see The Wall movie animation from 1979. Same album with We Don't Need No Education)

“If you don’t want any kind of sexual curriculum at all, that means kids don’t get to learn about flowers, about plants, about a whole bunch of different things.” (Greg: The sex ed I had in Grade 7 1978 was fine it was also anti drugs. Biology teaches about plants you lying union hack leftist.)

The B.C. government has published a “mythbuster” fact page on SOGI 123 in an effort to address some of the misinterpretations of the resource.

Protests against sexual orientation and gender identity education were planned nationwide Wednesday, with equal numbers of counter-protests also planned.
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Anti Sogi Rally Sept. 20 2023 Vancouver BC.
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If I get the time I will post on more the rally. I saw no arrests media said there was one but I left after 90 minutes for at least the last half an hour I could hear neither side as they blared over each other a siren from the tranny side wailed on and on so I walked away but our side after I walked away on the Seawall started playing We Don't Need No Education from The Wall in a loop you could here it over 200 ft away. I saw 12 uniformed police at the stage 4 observing from the roof of The Cactus Cafe one Asian officer with a video camera on a 6 ft pole that was always aimed at the evil ones smart idea and 28 police nearby in adjoining streets they had a squad of motorcycles. Our leaders urged no insults no violence children were on both sides I saw no fear in them. Morgane Oger the transsexual NDPer taxpayer funded whatever wandered to our side before our march talked to 5-6 ppl beside me don't remember the banter. Noticed 2 young White male longhairs taking lots of photos they were both given access to our stage. Our stage if the other side wanted could have been overrun in 15 seconds if they charged it with hands behind their backs.

https://psacunion.ca/september-20th-protests-against-2slgbtqia P.S.A. and BCGEU and BCTF urged their members to join against us. https://vdlc.ca/no-space-for-hate-september-20th/ As did the Vancouver And District Labour Council. Team degenerate filled the Robson Art Gallery traditional protest square.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/it-could-have-been-stopped-police-criticized-for-not-stepping-in-before-violent-confrontations-at-trans-rights-rally-1.6341431?cache=/7.420312/7.530068 April 3 2023 Morgane Oger complained about the V. P.D. response to violence at a Trans rally at Grandview Park. Video shows part of the fracas.

Our side had a rally in Saskatoon today.

Johns Rustad of the BC Conservative Party publicly condemned the Sogi 123 policy. The Tory party federally said nada about the rallies held in 32 locations. I gave his party $35

Since he took this stand his party has shot up in the polls a few points- ahead of Team Falcon. NDP at 42%. Ravi Kahlon looking good and in the media a lot and right next to the Premier in the Legislature.
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Ladner United Church vandalized for 6th time. Gay flags targeted. Delta Police have posted a video of the suspect hope he gets away with it however you do the crime you should be prepared to do the time. The UCC loses members by the thousands every year as Canada's population continues to grow.
Saw on news this morning hate and blowback in Canada is at its highest in years. This from May 2023.
Vandals target Pride flags at Ladner church for 4th time
Posted May 31, 2023 11:02 pm
For the fourth time since 2019, someone has targeted Pride flags at the Ladner United Church. View image in full screen
On the eve of Pride month, vandals have yet again defaced Pride flags at Delta’s Ladner United Church.
It’s the fourth time someone has targeted Pride flags at the church at 48th Avenue and Garry Street.
“The first reaction is anger and shock, and then that subsides. We’re not going to stop, that’s all I can say,” John Clement, chair of the church’s leadership council, told Global News.
Clement said the office manager arrived at the church around 9 a.m. to find black paint splattered over two windows behind which the flags were hanging.
Black paint can be seen splashed over a Pride flag behind glass at the Ladner United Church on Wednesday.
“This is the first time they have damaged the building. This is more of an attack on the whole building,” he said, adding he was “absolutely” certain the flags were the targets.
After previous attacks, the flags were moved indoors, but Celment said the church had been preparing to move them outside on June 1 to mark Pride month.
“Somebody struck early,” he said.
“The three previous times they were outside, and people either spray-painted big black blobs on two of them. The third one somebody … slashed it.”
That most recent attack, in July 2022, was caught on camera. A man appearing to be between the ages of 50 and 60 years old with a bandana covering his face can be seen using a sharp-edged pole to slash at the flag hanging in the church entryway.
Click to play video: 'Pride flag damaged at Ladner Church'
1:54
Pride flag damaged at Ladner Church
The two prior attacks came just 12 days apart in June 2019.
Global News has reached out to Delta police for an update on the investigation into this and the three prior incidents.
Clement said staff spent the day cleaning up the black paint, and that the church plans to proudly fly the flags despite the vandal’s attempts to target them.
He said the church welcomes differences of opinion, but not violence.
“It is frustrating, but in a way, after four times you get resigned. We’re proclaiming the gospel of love the way we see it,” he said.
“We have no problem with anybody not agreeing. We prefer they picketed, or wrote letters to the editor, or made it clear — come and talk with us.”
Their membership continues to decline 7 Bible verses specifically condemn queer sex.
GOD BLESS Uganda, Gov. Desantis, Maxine Bernier for their leadership on this issue. Premier Ford/Moe/Higgins right about stopping Sogi 123 great work guys.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) in the KJV is it is called an ABOMINATION the only word in the whole Bible to be in bold face.
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).
1 TIMOTHY 1:10
KJ21 for whoremongers, for those who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
Romans 1:26-27. The New International Version (NIV) 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
http://youtu.be/7s-oZDBrDnA Video of the crime.
Protestors and counter protestors gather outside the Surrey Teachers' Association building in Surrey over differing views on SOGI 123. (CityNews Image)
By Kurtis Doering and Greg Bowman
Posted Sep 20, 2023, 4:36PM PDT.Last Updated Sep 20, 2023, 4:46PM PDT.
While demonstrators defending Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity education (SOGI 123) outnumbered those against in Vancouver Wednesday, the same could not be said in Surrey, leading to at least one counter-protestor getting hit with a rock.
Around 600 people gathered outside the building of the Surrey Teachers’ Association on King George Boulevard protesting SOGI 123, outnumbering those in support of the educational resources.
(Greg: Great way to go I was at the Vancouver rally had no idea about the rally at the Surrey Teachers’ Association good show.)
Lizanne Foster, the vice president of the Surrey Teachers Association, tells CityNews staff at the building helped tend to a protestor supporting transgender rights who she says had been hit in the head with a rock.
“She was feeling dizzy and weak so we’re just trying to take care of her,” she told CityNews.
She says police on the scene were notified, but no action was taken.
In an email to CityNews, the Surrey RCMP says it got reports of an assault in the area of the protest, saying an investigation is in the “early stages.” Police did not confirm whether the assault was from an item being thrown at someone.
Foster says demonstrators began gathering around 10 a.m. on Wednesday, equipped with hateful signs directed at the 2SLGBTQIA+ and transgender communities.
“It was quite overwhelming. The vitriol and the hate and the absolute misinformation and lies. A lot of people in the crowd had the kinds of flags that we had in the trucker’s protest,” she said in reference to nationwide “Freedom Convoy” protests in 2022.
“We think that this issue has just galvanized the same group of people who were involved in those protests.” (Greg: I never supported convoy never knew anyone who did totally against Sogi 123.)
She says for at least one school in the Surrey district, about 50 per cent of kids did not show up on Wednesday.
“People are bringing their little kids to yell hate at us right here outside our building. They had loudspeakers, they were totally well prepared to spew hate the whole day,” she said.
Foster says she stood outside chanting “transphobes have got to go” and similar messages for a time on Wednesday. However, she says more needs to be done to curb what she calls the misinformation around the issue.
Misinformation about SOGI 123 needs to be addressed, Foster says
Foster says many of the protestors against SOGI 123 are misinformed about what the educational resources entail, saying the full scope of it is only available to teachers, not the public. (Greg: Public pays your wages $60k a year full pension all benefits and you won't tell the peasants paying the taxes what you are teaching put it on a website what are you trying to hide?)
“That information has to be disseminated. You have to actually show people what is happening because in the absence of actual fact, people are open to these lies that are being told to them,” she said.
She adds the misinformation proliferates beyond a misunderstanding of the educational resource.
“There’s a significant amount of ignorance about what sex and sexuality actually is. People use ‘sexualizing’ they use ‘sex’ and all these things — flowers are actually sexual beings. They’re male and female,” she explained.
(Greg: Sponges you lying evil ppl don't have sex. Flowers don't do drag. Flowers having sex see The Wall movie animation from 1979. Same album with We Don't Need No Education)
“If you don’t want any kind of sexual curriculum at all, that means kids don’t get to learn about flowers, about plants, about a whole bunch of different things.” (Greg: The sex ed I had in Grade 7 1978 was fine it was also anti drugs. Biology teaches about plants you lying union hack leftist.)
The B.C. government has published a “mythbuster” fact page on SOGI 123 in an effort to address some of the misinterpretations of the resource.
Protests against sexual orientation and gender identity education were planned nationwide Wednesday, with equal numbers of counter-protests also planned.
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Anti Sogi Rally Sept. 20 2023 Vancouver BC.
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If I get the time I will post on more the rally. I saw no arrests media said there was one but I left after 90 minutes for at least the last half an hour I could hear neither side as they blared over each other a siren from the tranny side wailed on and on so I walked away but our side after I walked away on the Seawall started playing We Don't Need No Education from The Wall in a loop you could here it over 200 ft away. I saw 12 uniformed police at the stage 4 observing from the roof of The Cactus Cafe one Asian officer with a video camera on a 6 ft pole that was always aimed at the evil ones smart idea and 28 police nearby in adjoining streets they had a squad of motorcycles. Our leaders urged no insults no violence children were on both sides I saw no fear in them. Morgane Oger the transsexual NDPer taxpayer funded whatever wandered to our side before our march talked to 5-6 ppl beside me don't remember the banter. Noticed 2 young White male longhairs taking lots of photos they
were both given access to our stage. Our stage if the other side wanted could have been overrun in 15 seconds if they charged it with hands behind their backs.
https://psacunion.ca/september-20th-protests-against-2slgbtqia P.S.A. and BCGEU and BCTF urged their members to join against us. https://vdlc.ca/no-space-for-hate-september-20th/ As did the Vancouver And District Labour Council. Team degenerate filled the Robson Art Gallery traditional protest square.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/it-could-have-been-stopped-police-criticized-for-not-stepping-in-before-violent-confrontations-at-trans-rights-rally-1.6341431?cache=/7.420312/7.530068 April 3 2023 Morgane Oger complained about the V. P.D. response to violence at a Trans rally at Grandview Park. Video shows part of the fracas.
Our side had a rally in Saskatoon today.
Johns Rustad of the BC Conservative Party publicly condemned the Sogi 123 policy. The Tory party federally said nada about the rallies held in 32 locations. I gave his party $35
Since he took this stand his party has shot up in the polls a few points- ahead of Team Falcon. NDP at 42%. Ravi Kahlon looking good and in the media a lot and right next to the Premier in the Legislature.
This radical anti-gay charade is fooling no one. Come out of the
closet; everyone already knows.
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This radical anti-gay charade is fooling no one. Come out of the
closet; everyone already knows.
Come out already, "Loose"!

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection

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This radical anti-gay charade is fooling no one. Come out of the
closet; everyone already knows.
Come out already, "Loose"!
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection
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Post by Loose Cannon
This radical anti-gay charade is fooling no one. Come out of the
closet; everyone already knows.
Come out already, "Loose"!
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection
jdyoung, Official
www.splc.org
SPLC great org.
Hang all nazis by a noose until dead.

By Johann Hari, Guest Writer
The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists
10/21/2008 06:16 pm ET Updated May 25, 2011
The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn’t shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.

Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps. Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A snapshot: “Three men had tried to escape one night. They were captured, and when they returned they had the word ‘homo’ scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer, ‘Hurrah! We’re back! Hurrah!’ Then they were hanged.” This is one of the milder events documented in his book.

So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.

Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”

Jorg Haider blasted Austria’s cosy post-Nazi politics to rubble in 2000 when his neo-fascist ‘Freedom Party’ won a quarter of the vote and joined the country’s government as a coalition partner. Several facts always cropped up in the international press coverage: his square jaw, his muscled torso, his SS-supporting father, his rabid anti-Semitism, his hatred of immigrants, his description of Auschwitz and Dachau as “punishment centres”. A few newspapers mentioned that he is always surrounded by fit, fanatical young men. A handful went further and pointed out that several of these young men are openly gay. Then one left-wing German paper broke the story everybody else was hinting at. They alleged Haider is gay.

Rumours of an Indian waiter with “intimate details” of Haider’s body broke into the press. The Freedom Party’s general manager Gerald Miscka quickly quit, amid accusations that he was Haider’s lover. Haider’s close gay friend Walter Kohler - who has been photographed showing off a holstered pistol while Haider chuckled - declared his opposition to outing politicians. Haider - who was married and has two children - kept quiet while his functionaries denied the rumours. The revelation that he died after leaving a gay bar suggests these rumours were true.

On and on it goes. If you inter-railed across Europe, only stopping with gay fascists, there aren’t many sights you’d miss. France’s leading post-war fascist was Edouard Pfieffer, who was not batting for the straight side. Germany’s leading neo-Nazi all through the eighties was called Michael Kuhnen; he died of AIDS in 1991 a few years after coming out. Martin Lee, author of a study of European fascism, explains, “For Kuhnen, there was something supermacho about being a Nazi, as well as being a homosexual, both of which enforced his sense of living on the edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an impact. He told a West German journalist that homosexuals were ‘especially well-suited for our task, because they do not want ties to wife, children and family.’”

And it wouldn’t be long before your whistlestop tour arrived in Britain. At first glance, our Nazis seem militantly straight. They have tried to disrupt gay parades, describe gay people as “evil”, and BNP leader Nick Griffin reacted charmingly to the bombing of the Admiral Duncan pub in 1999 with a column saying, “The TV footage of gay demonstrators [outside the scene of carnage] flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures repulsive.”

But scratch to homophobic surface and there’s a spandex swastika underneath. In 1999, Martin Webster, a former National Front organiser and head honcho in the British fascist movement, wrote a four-page pamphlet detailing his ‘affair’ with Nick Griffin. “Griffin sought out intimate relations with me,” openly-gay Webster explained, “in the late 1970s. He was twenty years younger than me.” Ray Hill, who infiltrated the British fascist movement for twelve years to gather information for anti-fascist groups, says it’s all too plausible. Homosexuality is “extremely prevalent” in the upper echelons of the British far right, and at one stage in the 1980s nearly half of the movement’s organisers were gay, he claims.

Gerry Gable, editor of the anti-fascist magazine ‘Searchlight’, explains, “I have looked at Britain’s Nazi groups for decades and this homophobic hypocrisy has been there all the time. I cannot think of any organisation on the extreme right that hasn’t attacked people on the grounds of their sexual preference and at the same time contained many gay officers and activists.”

Griffins’ alleged gay affair would stand in a long British fascist tradition. The leader of the skinhead movement all through the 1970s was a crazed, muscled thug called Nicky Crane. He was the icon of a reactionary backlash against immigrants, feminism and the ‘hippy’ lifetsyle of the 1960s. His movement’s emphasis on conformity to a shaven, dehumanised norm resembled classical fascist movements; Crane soon became a campaigner and leading figure in the National Front. Oh, and he was gay. Before he died of AIDS in the mid-1980s, Crane came out and admitted he had starred in many gay porn videos. Just before he died in 1986, he was allowed to steward a Gay Pride march in London, even though he still said he was “proud to be a fascist.”

The rubber-soled friction between gay fascists and progressive British gay people sparked into anger in 1985 when the Gay Skinhead Movement organised a disco at London’s Gay Centre. Several lesbians in particular objected to the “invasion” of the centre. They felt that the cult of “real men” and hypermasculine thugs was stirring up the most base feelings “in the very place, the gay movement, where you would least expect them.”

And this Gaystapo has an icon to revere, an alternative Fuhrer to worship: the lost gay fascist leader Ernst Rohm. Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. Born to conservative Bavarian civil servants in 1887, Ernst Rohm’s life began - in his view - in the “heroic” trenches of the First World War. Like so many of the generation who formed the Nazi Party, he was nurtured by and obsessed with the homoerotic myth of the trenches - heroic, beautiful boys prepared to die for their brothers and their country.

He emerged from the war with a bullet-scarred face and a reverence for war. As he put it in his autobiography, “Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than the good bourgeois order.” After being disbanded, he tried half-heartedly to get a foothold in civilian life, but he saw it as alien, bourgeois, boring. He had no political beliefs, only prejudices - particularly hatred of Jews. Historian Joachim Fest describes Rohm’s generation of alienated, demobbed young men humiliated by defeat as “agents of a permanent revolution without any revolutionary idea of the future, only a wish to eternalize the values of the trenches.”

It was Rohm who first spotted the potential of a soap-box ranter called Adolf Hitler. He saw him as the demagogue he needed to mobilize support for his plan to overthrow democracy and establish a “soldier’s state” where the army ruled untrammelled. He introduced the young fascist to local politicians and military leaders; they knew him for many years as “Rohm’s boy.” Gay historian Frank Rector notes, “Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohm’s protégé.” Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic.

Rohm’s blatant, out homosexuality seems bizarre now, given the gay genocide that was to follow. He talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren’t as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA.” They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning “hysterical women of both sexes”, in reference to feminine gay men.

This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the country’s first gay magazine. You could call it ‘Queer as Volk’: they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.

Rohm often referred to the ancient Greek tradition of sending gay solider couples into battle, because they were believed to be the most ferocious fighters. The famous pass of Thermopylae, for example was held by 300 soldiers - who consisted of 150 gay couples. In its early years, the SA - Hitler and Rohm’s underground army - was seen as predominantly gay. Rohm assigned prominent posts to his lovers, making Edmund Heines his deputy and Karl Ernst the SA commander in Berlin. The organisation would sometimes meet in gay bars. The gay art historian Christian Isermayer said in an interview, “I got to know people in the SA. They used to throw riotous parties even in 1933... I once attended one. It was quite well-behaved but thoroughly gay. But then, in those days, the SA was ultra-gay.”

On June 30th 1934, Rohm was awoken in a Berlin hotel by Hitler himself. He sprang to his feet and saluted, calling, “Heil Mein Fuhrer!” Hitler said simply, “You are under arrest,” and with that he left the room, giving orders for Rohm to be taken to Standelheim prison. He was shot that night. Rohm was the most high-profile kill in the massacre known as ‘the Night of the Long Knives’.



Rohm had been suspected by Hitler of disloyalty, but his murder began a massive crackdown on gay people. Heinrich Himmler, head of the Gestapo, described homosexuality as “a symptom of degeneracy that could destroy our race. We must return to the guiding Nordic principle: extermination of degenerates.”



German historian Lothar Machtan argues that Hitler had Rohm - and almost all of the large number of gay figures within the SA - killed to silence speculation about his own homosexual experiences. His ‘evidence’ for Hitler being gay is shaky and has been questioned by many historians, although some of his findings are at least suggestive. A close friend of Hitler’s during his teenager years, August Kubizek, alleged a “romantic” affair between them. Hans Mend, a despatch rider who served alongside Hitler in the First World War, claimed to have seen Hitler having sex with a man. Hitler was certainly very close to several gay men, and never seems to have had a normal sexual relationship with a woman, not even his wife, Eva Braun.

Rudolph Diels, the founder of the Gestapo, recorded some of Hitler’s private thoughts on homosexuality. “It had destroyed ancient Greece, he said. Once rife, it extended its contagious effects like an ineluctable law of nature to the best and most manly of characters, eliminating from the breeding pool the very men the Volk most needs.” This idea - that homosexuality is ‘contagious’ and, implicitly, tempting - is revealing.

Rohm is venerated on the Homo-Nazi sites that have bred on the internet like germs in a wound. They have names like Gays Against Semitism (with the charming acronym GAS), and the Aryan Resistance Corps (ARC). Their Rohmite philosophy is simple: while white men are superior to other races, gay men are “the masters of the Master Race”. They alone are endowed with the “capacity for pure male bonding” and the “superior intellect” that is needed for “a fascist revolution.” The ARC even organises holiday “get-togethers” for its members where “you can relax amongst the company of our fellow white brothers.”

So it’s fairly easy to establish that gay people are not inoculated from fascism. They have often been at its heart. This begs the bigger question: why? How did gay people - so often victims of oppression and hate - become integral to the most hateful and evil political movement of all? Is it just an extreme form of self-harm, the political equivalent to the gay kids who slash their own arms to ribbons out of self-hate?

Gay pornographer and film-maker Bruce LaBruce has one explanation. He claims that “all gay porn today is implictly fascist. Fascism is in our bones, because it’s all about glorifying white male supremacy and fetishizing domination, cruelty, power and monstrous authority figures.” He has tried to explore the relationship between homosexuality and fascism in his movies, beginning with ‘No Skin Off My Ass’ in 1991. In his disturbing 1999 film “Skin Flick’, a bourgeois gay couple - one black, one white - are sexually terrorised by a gang of gay skinheads who beat off to ‘Mein Kampf’ and beat up ‘femmes’. He implies that bourgeois gay norms quickly break down to reveal a fascist lurking underneath; the movie ends with the black character being raped in front of his half-aroused white lover, as the racist gang chant, “Fuck the monkey.”

I decided to track down some gay fascists and ask them directly. Wyatt Powers, director of the ARC, says, “I always knew in my heart racist and gay were both morally right. I don’t see any conflict between them. It’s only the Jew-owned gay press that tries to convince us that racialism is the same thing as homophobia. You can be an extreme nationalist and gay without any contradiction at all.”

One comment board on a gay racist website goes even further into racist lunacy. One gay man from Ohio says, “Even if you are gay and white, or retarded and white, YOU ARE WHITE, BOTTOM LINE! Instead of letting the white race go extinct because of worthless races such as the Africans or Mexicans popping out literally millions of babies a day, we have to fight this fucked up shit they are doing. They are raping our country.” It’s true that racism and homophobia do not necessarily overlap - but as Rabbi Bernard Melchman explains, “Homophobia and anti-Semitism are so often part of the same disease.” Racists are usually homophobic. Even after reading all their web rantings, I didn’t feel any closer to understanding why so many gay men ally themselves with people who will almost always turn on them in the end, just as the Nazis did.

Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell has a sensitive and intriguing explanation. “There are many reasons for this kind of thing,” he says. “Some of them are in denial. They are going for hyper-masculinity, the most extreme possible way of being a man. It’s a way of ostentatiously rejecting the perceived effeminacy of the homosexual ‘Other’. These troubled men have a simple belief in their minds: ‘Straight men are tough. Queers are weak. Therefore if I’m tough I can’t be queer.’ It’s a desperate way of proving their manhood.”

‘Searchlight’ magazine - the bible of the British anti-fascist movement, with moles in every major far-right organisation - offers an alternative explanation. “Generally condemned by a society that continues to be largely hostile to gays, some men may find refuge and a new power status in the far right,” one of their writers has explained. “Through adherence to the politics espoused by fascist groups, a new identity emerges - one where they aren’t outcasts, because they are White Men, superior to everyone else. They render the gay part of their identity invisible - or reject the socially less acceptable parts, like being feminine - while vaunting what they see as superior.”

But there’s another important question: will fascist movements inevitably turn on gay people? In the case of the Nazis, it seems to have been fairly arbitrary; Hitler’s main reason for killing Rohm was unrelated to his sexuality. From my perspective as a progressive-minded leftie, all fascism is evil; but should all gay people see it as inimical to their interests? Is it possible to have a gay fascist who wasn’t acting against his own interests? Fascism is often defined as “a political ideology advocating hierarchical government that systematically denies equality to certain groups.” It’s true that this hierarchy could benefit gay people at the expense of, say, black people. But given the prevalence of homophobia, isn’t that - even for people who don’t see fascism as inherently evil - a terrible risk to take? Won’t a culture that turns viciously on one minority get around to gay people in the end? This seems, ultimately, to be the lesson of Ernst Rohm’s pitiful, squalid little life.

The growing awareness of the role gay men play in fascist movements has been abused by some homophobes. In an especially nutty work of revisionist history called ‘The Pink Swastika’, the ‘historian’ Scott Lively tries to blame gay people for the entire Holocaust, and describes the murder of gay men in the camps as merely “gay-on-gay violence.” A typical website commenting on the book claims absurdly, “The Pink Swastika shows that there was far more brutality, rape, torture and murder committed against innocent people by Nazi homosexuals than there even was against homosexuals themselves.”

Yet we can’t allow these madmen to prevent a period of serious self-reflection from the gay movement. If Bruce LaBruce is right, many of the mainstream elements of gay culture - body worship, the lauding of the strong, a fetish for authority figures and cruelty - provide a swamp in which the fascist virus can thrive. Do some gay people really still need to learn that fascists will not bring on a Fabulous Solution for gay people, but a Final Solution for us all?

Johann Hari is a writer for the Independent newspaper. To read more of his articles, click here.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697

Thomas Michael Marks is a known Pedophile and Nazi.

The 54 year old Roseville, Minnesota White Nationalist
organizer has been arrested in an undercover Child-sex sting in
August, 1997. Marks answered an internet ad for a company in
Yuma, Arizona offering enticements of ”the young at heart.”
This is a known code phrase for those interested in sex with
children. The placed Ad was part of an undercover operation and
Marks was arrested after flying into Yuma and meeting with his
“sex-tour liaison” at a motel. According to court documents
Marks was interested in overnight stays with pre-teen girls and
booked a three day stay with several 8-year old girls. After
raiding his residence federal agents discovered child
pornography downloaded to his computer. Marks was a teacher
before getting arrested in the Child-sex sting.

Francis Joseph "Frank" Collin (born November 3, 1944 in
Chicago, Illinois) Midwest coordinator with the National
Socialist White People's Party. After being ousted for being
part Jewish (which he denied), Collin founded in 1970, the
National Socialist Party of America.[1] In the late 1970s, its
plan to march in the predominantly Jewish suburb of Skokie,
Illinois was challenged, but the ACLU defended its freedom of
speech and assembly in a case that reached the United States
Supreme Court. The court in National Socialist Party of America
v. Village of Skokie (1979), a major First Amendment decision,
ruled that the party had a right to march and to display a
swastika, despite local opposition. Collin was convicted and
sentenced in 1979 for child molestation.

Germany opens files on Chile sect run by Nazi pedophile‘For
many years… German diplomats looked the other way,’ concedes
foreign minister regarding abusive group Colonia Dignidad
http://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-opens-files-on-chile-sect-
run-by-nazi-pedophile/

Kevin Alfred Strom (born August 17, 1956) is an American White
nationalist, neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier, White separatist and
associate editor of National Vanguard. Strom resigned from
National Vanguard in July 2006,[1] but rejoined in 2012.
In 2008 Strom pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography
and was sentenced to 23 months in prison, of which he served
four months. Think he informed on his companions? He has posted as Topaz on USENET from time to time over the years spreading his lies and hatreds towards his cultural and intellectual betters the Jews.
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Nazis are pedophiles hang them.

August Kreis III: Sentenced to 50 Years For Child Molestation

Back in June 2008 we ran a story concerning neo-Nazi parents (one of whom we continue to refer to as "Nazi Mom") who had attended the first Aryan Guard march in Calgary. This particular couple, now divorced, hit the news when Child and Family Services removed the children from their home after "Nazi Mom" had sent her daughter to school with racist iconography scrawled in marker all over her daughter's arms. Despite attempting to regain custody, "Nazi Mom" never did regain her parental rights.

At the time the news hit the msm, the usual suspects jumped in to support "Nazi Mom" and "Nazi Dad." The most prominent included Paul Fromm and members of the Aryan Guard itself, but they also received some international support:

August Kreis III, the leader of the Aryan Nations, told the Winnipeg Free Press his organization is prepared to mobilize whatever resources are necessary -- including financial and legal -- to ensure the decision isn't allowed to stand. He said the case is unlike anything he's ever heard of and fears it will set a dangerous precedent across North America.

"We're all family people. If they can do this in Canada, how long until they are doing it down here?" Mr. Kreis said in an interview from his home in South Carolina.
....
"The Canadians need to know we support this fight, that they are not alone. We're all over, and there are a lot of Canadians who feel the same way we do and are fed up with all this multiculturalism."

Mr. Kreis said he wouldn't advise his followers to turn their children into so-called "billboards" -- such as what is alleged to have happened in Winnipeg -- but added that's hardly grounds to have children removed from a home.

Mr. Kreis questions why similar seizures haven't been made of children being raised by homosexual or lesbian parents.

Ah, they are, "all family people" eh? Big supporters of the 14 words, no doubt.

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

It is such a relief that family men such as August Kreis are looking out for the welfare of "white" families and their children. Kreis himself was a family man having sired many children himself.

And just how well protected were the "white" children under Kreis' care?

Former Aryan Nations Leader Gets 50 Years For Child Rape

August Byron Kreis III, a one-time pre-eminent racist leader with ties to the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus and the Aryan Nations, will spend the rest of his life in prison for child molestation.

The 61-year-old Kreis -- who lost both legs to diabetes and is now wheel-chair bound -- was sentenced Thursday to 50 years in prison after being found guilty by a jury in Lexington, S.C., of one count of criminal sexual conduct involving a child and two counts of committing lewd acts on a child.

The charges were related to repeated sexual abuse of two girls between the ages of 10 and 14 by the man who at one-time declared he was the hand-picked leader of the Aryan Nations, chosen to succeed the late Richard G. Butler.

But child rape conviction aside, Kreis wasn't about to let the opportunity to get the message out pass:

During the three-day trial, Kreis held up a sign to the jury, “Vote for Donald Trump.” That prompted his defense attorney to ask for a mistrial, but the judge rejected the attempt to derail the trial.

At sentencing Thursday afternoon, Kreis was back with an anti-Semitic rant and another plug for the Republican presidential candidate who is leading most current polls.

“I will always hate the Jew,” Kreis said in the courtroom. “This government is run by an evil group of people, and, please, ‘Vote for Trump!’”

An endorsement that we think even the Donald would refuse.

We think.

http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2015/11/august-kreis-iii-sentenced-to-50-years.html
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KKK "Grand Dragon" molested his granddaughter
http://tinyurl.com/ou674td

Leading US neo-Nazi jailed for child porn possession
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom

More on neo-nazis and child porn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7469180.stm

neo-Nazi leader shot dead by his 10 year old son whom he abused
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jeff_Hall

Frank Collin, leader of the National Socialist Party of America: pedophile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin

"Aryan Nations" leader, convicted of theft, is also a pedophile
http://tinyurl.com/q2qm743

Fugitive Nazis who built a paedophile paradise in the sun
http://tinyurl.com/p8sungc

neo-Nazi attacks women with hammer, gets 248-year sentence
http://tinyurl.com/pcblep5

http://tinyurl.com/oa55jxz
Notorious German Neo-Nazi Tino Brandt Charged With Child Abuse

Nazis were "sexually aroused by necrophilia, bestiality and sadism"
http://tinyurl.com/kppjbuc

White supremacist beat a five year old to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Ryan

British neo-Nazis torture, murder 17 month old boy
http://tinyurl.com/nlddf8

British neo-Nazi sentenced to life for raping a two year old girl
http://tinyurl.com/o3obact

Child porn found on computer of neo-Nazi Holocaust Museum shooter
http://tinyurl.com/nqvkoba

White supremacists rob and murder a family, including an 8 year old girl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevie_Kehoe

British KKK "leader" is a convicted child molester
http://tinyurl.com/pcdav6g
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/articles/wiw.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/opmajuf

Hungarian neo-Nazis murder four year old boy
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3835961.ece

BNP paedophile convicted
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-murderer-paedophile-convicted-22062012

And ANOTHER BNP paedophile convicted!
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-paedophile-jailed-13012006

White supremacist tortured and sexually assaulted teen stepdaughters
http://tinyurl.com/pucouny

Nigel Hesmondalgh, British neo-Nazi: jailed for possessing a series
of degrading photos and videos of children.
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/edl-sex-offenders-list/

Shaun Jones, British neo-Nazi: jailed for raping a 12 year old girl
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/updated-edl-nonce-list/
http://tinyurl.com/qxefndm

Kane Hutchinson, British neo-Nazi: jailed for abusing young boys
http://tinyurl.com/oc3zm2w

John Broomfield, British neo-Nazi: jailed for child abuse images
http://tinyurl.com/pxfq6ux
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/tag/john-broomfield/

Mervyn Jones, British neo-Nazi: 17 years for "sustained and prolific sex crimes"
http://tinyurl.com/q838xlf
http://tinyurl.com/oa87ea8

Darren Francis, British neo-Nazi: multiple sex offences, illegal drugs
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.il/2010/07/bnp-paedophile-every-parents-worst.html

James Mullen, British neo-Nazi, repeatedly kicked his pregnant girlfriend
in the stomach, attacked others, incl. a 10-year-old girl
http://tinyurl.com/pth57ou

Wayne McCurry, British neo-Nazi, convicted of attacking two 14-year-old girls
More on this sick nazoid animal: http://tinyurl.com/penov2z

Eliot Jones, British neo-Nazi, sentenced for blackmail and child abuse
Yes, business as usual with the nazoid sickos.
More in: http://tinyurl.com/p89ypar

Jeff Marsh, British neo-Nazi "leader", jailed for attacking a woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuals_United

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2007/national-vanguard-founder-kevin-alfred-storm-arrested-child-pornography
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Ladner United Church vandalized for 6th time. Gay flags targeted. Delta Police have posted a video of the suspect hope he gets away with it however you do the crime you should be prepared to do the time. The UCC loses members by the thousands every year as Canada's population continues to grow.
Saw on news this morning hate and blowback in Canada is at its highest in years. This from May 2023.
Vandals target Pride flags at Ladner church for 4th time
Posted May 31, 2023 11:02 pm
For the fourth time since 2019, someone has targeted Pride flags at the Ladner United Church. View image in full screen
On the eve of Pride month, vandals have yet again defaced Pride flags at Delta’s Ladner United Church.
It’s the fourth time someone has targeted Pride flags at the church at 48th Avenue and Garry Street.
“The first reaction is anger and shock, and then that subsides. We’re not going to stop, that’s all I can say,” John Clement, chair of the church’s leadership council, told Global News.
Clement said the office manager arrived at the church around 9 a.m. to find black paint splattered over two windows behind which the flags were hanging.
Black paint can be seen splashed over a Pride flag behind glass at the Ladner United Church on Wednesday.
“This is the first time they have damaged the building. This is more of an attack on the whole building,” he said, adding he was “absolutely” certain the flags were the targets.
After previous attacks, the flags were moved indoors, but Celment said the church had been preparing to move them outside on June 1 to mark Pride month.
“Somebody struck early,” he said.
“The three previous times they were outside, and people either spray-painted big black blobs on two of them. The third one somebody … slashed it.”
That most recent attack, in July 2022, was caught on camera. A man appearing to be between the ages of 50 and 60 years old with a bandana covering his face can be seen using a sharp-edged pole to slash at the flag hanging in the church entryway.
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Pride flag damaged at Ladner Church
The two prior attacks came just 12 days apart in June 2019.
Global News has reached out to Delta police for an update on the investigation into this and the three prior incidents.
Clement said staff spent the day cleaning up the black paint, and that the church plans to proudly fly the flags despite the vandal’s attempts to target them.
He said the church welcomes differences of opinion, but not violence.
“It is frustrating, but in a way, after four times you get resigned. We’re proclaiming the gospel of love the way we see it,” he said.
“We have no problem with anybody not agreeing. We prefer they picketed, or wrote letters to the editor, or made it clear — come and talk with us.”
Their membership continues to decline 7 Bible verses specifically condemn queer sex.
GOD BLESS Uganda, Gov. Desantis, Maxine Bernier for their leadership on this issue. Premier Ford/Moe/Higgins right about stopping Sogi 123 great work guys.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) in the KJV is it is called an ABOMINATION the only word in the whole Bible to be in bold face.
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).
1 TIMOTHY 1:10
KJ21 for whoremongers, for those who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
Romans 1:26-27. The New International Version (NIV) 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.
http://youtu.be/7s-oZDBrDnA Video of the crime.
Protestors and counter protestors gather outside the Surrey Teachers' Association building in Surrey over differing views on SOGI 123. (CityNews Image)
By Kurtis Doering and Greg Bowman
Posted Sep 20, 2023, 4:36PM PDT.Last Updated Sep 20, 2023, 4:46PM PDT.
While demonstrators defending Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity education (SOGI 123) outnumbered those against in Vancouver Wednesday, the same could not be said in Surrey, leading to at least one counter-protestor getting hit with a rock.
Around 600 people gathered outside the building of the Surrey Teachers’ Association on King George Boulevard protesting SOGI 123, outnumbering those in support of the educational resources.
(Greg: Great way to go I was at the Vancouver rally had no idea about the rally at the Surrey Teachers’ Association good show.)
Lizanne Foster, the vice president of the Surrey Teachers Association, tells CityNews staff at the building helped tend to a protestor supporting transgender rights who she says had been hit in the head with a rock.
“She was feeling dizzy and weak so we’re just trying to take care of her,” she told CityNews.
She says police on the scene were notified, but no action was taken.
In an email to CityNews, the Surrey RCMP says it got reports of an assault in the area of the protest, saying an investigation is in the “early stages.” Police did not confirm whether the assault was from an item being thrown at someone.
Foster says demonstrators began gathering around 10 a.m. on Wednesday, equipped with hateful signs directed at the 2SLGBTQIA+ and transgender communities.
“It was quite overwhelming. The vitriol and the hate and the absolute misinformation and lies. A lot of people in the crowd had the kinds of flags that we had in the trucker’s protest,” she said in reference to nationwide “Freedom Convoy” protests in 2022.
“We think that this issue has just galvanized the same group of people who were involved in those protests.” (Greg: I never supported convoy never knew anyone who did totally against Sogi 123.)
She says for at least one school in the Surrey district, about 50 per cent of kids did not show up on Wednesday.
“People are bringing their little kids to yell hate at us right here outside our building. They had loudspeakers, they were totally well prepared to spew hate the whole day,” she said.
Foster says she stood outside chanting “transphobes have got to go” and similar messages for a time on Wednesday. However, she says more needs to be done to curb what she calls the misinformation around the issue.
Misinformation about SOGI 123 needs to be addressed, Foster says
Foster says many of the protestors against SOGI 123 are misinformed about what the educational resources entail, saying the full scope of it is only available to teachers, not the public. (Greg: Public pays your wages $60k a year full pension all benefits and you won't tell the peasants paying the taxes what you are teaching put it on a website what are you trying to hide?)
“That information has to be disseminated. You have to actually show people what is happening because in the absence of actual fact, people are open to these lies that are being told to them,” she said.
She adds the misinformation proliferates beyond a misunderstanding of the educational resource.
“There’s a significant amount of ignorance about what sex and sexuality actually is. People use ‘sexualizing’ they use ‘sex’ and all these things — flowers are actually sexual beings. They’re male and female,” she explained.
(Greg: Sponges you lying evil ppl don't have sex. Flowers don't do drag. Flowers having sex see The Wall movie animation from 1979. Same album with We Don't Need No Education)
“If you don’t want any kind of sexual curriculum at all, that means kids don’t get to learn about flowers, about plants, about a whole bunch of different things.” (Greg: The sex ed I had in Grade 7 1978 was fine it was also anti drugs. Biology teaches about plants you lying union hack leftist.)
The B.C. government has published a “mythbuster” fact page on SOGI 123 in an effort to address some of the misinterpretations of the resource.
Protests against sexual orientation and gender identity education were planned nationwide Wednesday, with equal numbers of counter-protests also planned.
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Anti Sogi Rally Sept. 20 2023 Vancouver BC.
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If I get the time I will post on more the rally. I saw no arrests media said there was one but I left after 90 minutes for at least the last half an hour I could hear neither side as they blared over each other a siren from the tranny side wailed on and on so I walked away but our side after I walked away on the Seawall started playing We Don't Need No Education from The Wall in a loop you could here it over 200 ft away. I saw 12 uniformed police at the stage 4 observing from the roof of The Cactus Cafe one Asian officer with a video camera on a 6 ft pole that was always aimed at the evil ones smart idea and 28 police nearby in adjoining streets they had a squad of motorcycles. Our leaders urged no insults no violence children were on both sides I saw no fear in them. Morgane Oger the transsexual NDPer taxpayer funded whatever wandered to our side before our march talked to 5-6 ppl beside me don't remember the banter. Noticed 2 young White male longhairs taking lots of photos they
were both given access to our stage. Our stage if the other side wanted could have been overrun in 15 seconds if they charged it with hands behind their backs.
https://psacunion.ca/september-20th-protests-against-2slgbtqia P.S.A. and BCGEU and BCTF urged their members to join against us. https://vdlc.ca/no-space-for-hate-september-20th/ As did the Vancouver And District Labour Council. Team degenerate filled the Robson Art Gallery traditional protest square.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/it-could-have-been-stopped-police-criticized-for-not-stepping-in-before-violent-confrontations-at-trans-rights-rally-1.6341431?cache=/7.420312/7.530068 April 3 2023 Morgane Oger complained about the V. P.D. response to violence at a Trans rally at Grandview Park. Video shows part of the fracas.
Our side had a rally in Saskatoon today.
Johns Rustad of the BC Conservative Party publicly condemned the Sogi 123 policy. The Tory party federally said nada about the rallies held in 32 locations. I gave his party $35
Since he took this stand his party has shot up in the polls a few points- ahead of Team Falcon. NDP at 42%. Ravi Kahlon looking good and in the media a lot and right next to the Premier in the Legislature.
This radical anti-gay charade is fooling no one. Come out of the
closet; everyone already knows.
Everyone? My the gossiping magpies with no family life are busy chattering and texting their lies and stupidity.

Why the gay community in fear you feeb? Why the media say they need protection?

Your wife is fat you are stupid. Go to a church of abortions you git.
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